"MARRIAGE IS THE PLACE WHERE WE THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE CHILDREN": A RESPONSE FROM MARK MILLER: (posted by Eve, not Maggie)

[Maggie wrote, "Marriage is the place where we think it is a good idea to have children. ...Therefore, in giving marriage to unisex couples, we are saying that we think it is a great idea of unisex couples to acquire children. We are saying children do not need mothers and fathers.

"None of that is true with any male-female union."

Mark replies:]

I actually do agree that it is not possible to approve of same-sex marriage and disapprove of same-sex parenting, legally speaking.

But your argument fails when you attempt to justify laws preventing any legal acceptance of gay relationships by saying 'marriage is the place where we think it is a good idea to have children'. If that is what you believe then you must believe that the following marriages 'are a good place to have children':
- incarcerated persons
- persons knowing each other less than 48 hours
- atheists

Are those cases where you think 'it is a good idea to have children' ? Of course not. As a conservative, I'm sure you believe as I do that most social and legal institutions should be available to all citizens but with that comes a 'personal responsibility'.

Having and raising children is ONE of the purposes of marriage. But once you define that as THE purpose, then you have a problem unless you are willing to say that the ONLY important thing about parenthood is having two parents of the opposite sex.
posted by maggie at 3:37 PM VOTE

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